JOIN MY FREE <Enter in the title, description, and main benefit of your lead magnet here>

NC logo

Ep 5 - Nonprofit Advocacy

“You have your customers, who are the people who pay for your services, the clients who receive the services, and your constituents who care about your services, and sometimes those three categories of people can be completely different. ” - Pat Libby

Subscribe On

In this week’s episode, May is excited to host Pat Libby, a management consultant specializing in nonprofits and philanthropies. Pat delineates the array of services offered by her company while delving into the rationale behind nonprofits advocating for their causes. She illustrates instances where impactful legislation has been enacted in California due to grassroots lobbying efforts. Additionally, Pat and May discuss the significance of bylaws and governance in the nonprofit sector, emphasizing that these foundational components constitute the bedrock of any nonprofit organization and necessitate thorough understanding by its board members.


[00:57] May introduces Pat Libby, and Pat shares her background and answers the question regarding information found on the internet as it relates to bylaws
[07:16] Pat outlines the services she provides for clients and the benefits of lobbying
[12:44] Pat highlights her book Empowered Citizens Guide, 10 Steps to Passing a Law That Matters to You and also discusses examples of laws that her students passed
[22:51] What nonprofits should engage in advocacy, and does it cost to lobby
[26:27] Pat shares her thoughts on governance and strategic planning and gives examples of a strategic plan
[33:11] Pat discusses working with other nonprofits to combine efforts to maximize an impac


  • ​Those who criticize the compensation of a nonprofit should recognize the importance of adequately paying nonprofit leaders, just as you would a manager in a for-profit business.
  • ​Nonprofits should promote the impact their programs have. That would be more effective than talking about how the donations are spent.
  • ​Individuals who are problem solvers and can mediate between groups and boards would enjoy and do well working at a nonprofit.